The US military spends millions of dollars countering propaganda, but spends taxpayer money in order to allow troops to watch Fox News on base. Fox is known to spread false narratives and propaganda. Should Fox News be banned from military bases altogether? Why or why not? (we will reply to every response).
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Normally I favor all Freedom of Speech but constant dangerous hypnotic repetitive lies and conspiracy theories are threatening Democracy and all that entails and endangering lies.
If FOX knew they were lying, which published text messages indicate then, they are engaging in purposeful malicious rhetoric
It’s the goal of Putin to bring down our country down, without firing a shot and Russian TV lauds Tucker Carlson FOX - who admits lying - as a friend of Russia
CNN has had its issues, but I believe they try to make up for their mistakes by airing a retraction or an apology. This proves why you shouldn’t get your news from a single source like so many Fox News viewers do. Fox encourages this claiming to be Fair and Balanced when in reality it’s just making them money.
I think a big fat visible disclaimer before each prime time show and The Five saying that ‘Fox News is licensed by the FCC as entertainment (they are, in fact) and should not be taken at face value’ would be sufficient if the FCC required they do it. But they won’t, because the FCC as we knew it in the ‘7 Dirty Words’ days barely exists anymore. But there really should be SOME kind of fallout on Faux News and the hosts for deliberately misleading viewers in a news broadcast.
It’s true CNN has made errors in facts but the difference is they and other honest media publish retractions and provide corrections with apologies to their viewers
FOX does not
FOX CEO admitted under oath in court they lied about the election
And even now Tucker is publishing false narratives contradiction actual multi station broadcasts of the violent crowds that swarmed the Capitol. So far 238 or so insurrectionists have pled guilty with more trials pending
I understand your need to be loyal to something but it would be healthier if you researched facts on your own
Please consider Googling Dominion / FOX multibillion lawsuit
Absolutely not. As you pointed out, Fox News is not a news station and frequently broadcasts fake news. Let’s be honest: it’s the Kremlin’s propaganda machine in the U.S.
I agree, have said so for years. When false propaganda is repeated, it becomes a true perspective. Our military and law enforcement have already displayed how that perspective has undermined our democracy and threatens the lives of our minority citizens! FNC has been the primary source of fascist propaganda, has admitted it is not based on news but opinion. Therefore, it should not be the primary source of information spread to our military forces.
I’ve been traveling and working overseas now for almost 15 years. Most places I’ve visited have Fox News as not available. The real news that Fox broadcasts isn’t enough to offset the lies and misinformation it spreads on a daily basis. People wonder why we’re in the mess we are in, and it’s because of Fox News, Breitbart, Infowar, and others that care more about bilking the gullible masses out of their hard earned money, than reporting the real news. It keeps the massively rich, rich, and derails any opportunity to make things better for everyone by claiming it will destroy America, with repeated buzz words like (Socialism, Communism, Woke Agenda) who get repeated by their loyal viewers ad nauseam. Anyone with a brain can see that agencies like Fox News and the others are the ones doing that.
Having served in the Air Force for 28 years between 1972 and 2000, I do not think banning a news outlet is proper. During my time, race relations was the big issue in early 1970s and we had a lot of instruction in race relations but I’m not aware of any bans in place.
I think that a more appropriate action is to inform and instruct the troops that news outlets operate for money and have their own narratives to push. Most individuals are intelligent enough to know this.
Ban! Would you have let Tokyo Rose have access to those who protect and serve the citizenry? Same thing! Don’t be fooled by the fact that they are American, the agenda of disinformation is just as DANGEROUS.
As long as military bases allow full and free choice of all common/various news programs and entertainment shows - including CNN, NBC, CBS, etc.- then Fox News should be allowed as well. Fox may well have turned into a far right propaganda machine full of lies, but people still have the right to watch it if they choose.
Military bases certainly have the option to inform soldiers that such a program should be regarded as or is technically seen as entertainment, and can notify all personnel that they should use their best judgment when understanding and interpreting "news" and the analysis of said news from any program. Or, if they don't feel like taking a stance (and I'm assuming they probably would not), they don't have to say anything at all- just make a wide variety of news programs available to all of their personnel.
I don't like censoring what people watch, no matter how bad the subject material may be. That starts us down a slippery slope of canceling what we dislike. I could absolutely see a scenario where Republicans ban CNN or liberal publications because they don't like what is said and shown there. I think it's best to have everything available and let people choose as they will.
I’m not sure the last time it was that you were on a Military Base, but all the common room TV’s are all on Fox News 24x7 so it’s not like they are being objective. I was once told by one of these MAGA people that when the Civil War happens the Military will be on their side. They might be particularly right with the amount of brainwashing they receive. I mean it’s hard to ignore that garbage when it’s shoved down your throat everywhere you turn.
No they can’t fight that. And not only on military installations but worldwide on every single broadcast. I bet that would pinch Murdoch & Co more than a fine would.
Normally I favor all Freedom of Speech but constant dangerous hypnotic repetitive lies and conspiracy theories are threatening Democracy and all that entails and endangering lies.
If FOX knew they were lying, which published text messages indicate then, they are engaging in purposeful malicious rhetoric
It’s the goal of Putin to bring down our country down, without firing a shot and Russian TV lauds Tucker Carlson FOX - who admits lying - as a friend of Russia
Britain banished Fox and so should we
Our precious military deserve Truth
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Whether they are working with Russia or not, they are certainly helping them.
"dangerous hypnotic repetitive lies and conspiracy theories"
This is why I don't like CNN.
CNN has had its issues, but I believe they try to make up for their mistakes by airing a retraction or an apology. This proves why you shouldn’t get your news from a single source like so many Fox News viewers do. Fox encourages this claiming to be Fair and Balanced when in reality it’s just making them money.
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I think a big fat visible disclaimer before each prime time show and The Five saying that ‘Fox News is licensed by the FCC as entertainment (they are, in fact) and should not be taken at face value’ would be sufficient if the FCC required they do it. But they won’t, because the FCC as we knew it in the ‘7 Dirty Words’ days barely exists anymore. But there really should be SOME kind of fallout on Faux News and the hosts for deliberately misleading viewers in a news broadcast.
This would be a decent solution and since Fox News admitted that it's entertainment in court, they shouldn't be able to fight it.
Every other "journalist" news outlet will claim the same thing.
It’s true CNN has made errors in facts but the difference is they and other honest media publish retractions and provide corrections with apologies to their viewers
FOX does not
FOX CEO admitted under oath in court they lied about the election
And even now Tucker is publishing false narratives contradiction actual multi station broadcasts of the violent crowds that swarmed the Capitol. So far 238 or so insurrectionists have pled guilty with more trials pending
I understand your need to be loyal to something but it would be healthier if you researched facts on your own
Please consider Googling Dominion / FOX multibillion lawsuit
Absolutely not. As you pointed out, Fox News is not a news station and frequently broadcasts fake news. Let’s be honest: it’s the Kremlin’s propaganda machine in the U.S.
No doubt that they are helping Russia's narrative
I agree, have said so for years. When false propaganda is repeated, it becomes a true perspective. Our military and law enforcement have already displayed how that perspective has undermined our democracy and threatens the lives of our minority citizens! FNC has been the primary source of fascist propaganda, has admitted it is not based on news but opinion. Therefore, it should not be the primary source of information spread to our military forces.
CNN spreads repetitive lies and misinformtion to sway public and military opinion. That's dangerous. “The goyim know. Shut it down Oy vey! "
I’ve been traveling and working overseas now for almost 15 years. Most places I’ve visited have Fox News as not available. The real news that Fox broadcasts isn’t enough to offset the lies and misinformation it spreads on a daily basis. People wonder why we’re in the mess we are in, and it’s because of Fox News, Breitbart, Infowar, and others that care more about bilking the gullible masses out of their hard earned money, than reporting the real news. It keeps the massively rich, rich, and derails any opportunity to make things better for everyone by claiming it will destroy America, with repeated buzz words like (Socialism, Communism, Woke Agenda) who get repeated by their loyal viewers ad nauseam. Anyone with a brain can see that agencies like Fox News and the others are the ones doing that.
Having served in the Air Force for 28 years between 1972 and 2000, I do not think banning a news outlet is proper. During my time, race relations was the big issue in early 1970s and we had a lot of instruction in race relations but I’m not aware of any bans in place.
I think that a more appropriate action is to inform and instruct the troops that news outlets operate for money and have their own narratives to push. Most individuals are intelligent enough to know this.
Finally even though I flew B-52s and cleared in nuclear programs, I still subscribed to Soviet periodicals and news--I did have to report such contacts to Air Force counterintelligence. Here’s a war story on how I almost got harpooned bu Greenpeace I’ve one such incident... https://nationalsecurityandstrategy.blogspot.com/2014/01/how-i-almost-got-harpooned-by-greenpeace.html?m=1
That’s my take.
Thank you for your service.
Bless you ❤️🇺🇸
Yes, they should be banned as they have no useful "NEWS" value.
The daytime news actually is accurate, although they cover stuff that only Conservatives care about mainly.
Absolutely not. All media channels should be available for troops. This is insane.
Do you feel that Fox News should be able to knowingly spread lies to our Troops?
Ban! Would you have let Tokyo Rose have access to those who protect and serve the citizenry? Same thing! Don’t be fooled by the fact that they are American, the agenda of disinformation is just as DANGEROUS.
As long as military bases allow full and free choice of all common/various news programs and entertainment shows - including CNN, NBC, CBS, etc.- then Fox News should be allowed as well. Fox may well have turned into a far right propaganda machine full of lies, but people still have the right to watch it if they choose.
Military bases certainly have the option to inform soldiers that such a program should be regarded as or is technically seen as entertainment, and can notify all personnel that they should use their best judgment when understanding and interpreting "news" and the analysis of said news from any program. Or, if they don't feel like taking a stance (and I'm assuming they probably would not), they don't have to say anything at all- just make a wide variety of news programs available to all of their personnel.
I don't like censoring what people watch, no matter how bad the subject material may be. That starts us down a slippery slope of canceling what we dislike. I could absolutely see a scenario where Republicans ban CNN or liberal publications because they don't like what is said and shown there. I think it's best to have everything available and let people choose as they will.
I’m not sure the last time it was that you were on a Military Base, but all the common room TV’s are all on Fox News 24x7 so it’s not like they are being objective. I was once told by one of these MAGA people that when the Civil War happens the Military will be on their side. They might be particularly right with the amount of brainwashing they receive. I mean it’s hard to ignore that garbage when it’s shoved down your throat everywhere you turn.
Yes!!!
Nice try quackensteans
You ate and your bother a pure communist and shameful individuals
No they can’t fight that. And not only on military installations but worldwide on every single broadcast. I bet that would pinch Murdoch & Co more than a fine would.
Yeah. Murdoch doesn't care about fines when he's bringing in $500M a year